Published June 7, 2010
U.S. Rep. Barney Frank, Newton’s gay, left-handed, pugnacious Democrat, is our guest on Radio Boston. He is the leading legislator on financial reform, a fight perhaps no one else is better equipped to handle. Another fight is on the horizon: re-election.
I pseudo-live blogged his remarks here with host Meghna Chakrabarti.
Post show-update: I’ve cleaned up and clarified my notes from the interview, which is now available for listening.
Frank: We don’t want banks doing anything on their own. We want them working for their customers.
But there should be limits on regulation. Banks are the most fully regulated entities around. If you move money out of a bank into something like Lehman Brothers, Goldman Sachs, there’s less regulation.
Derivatives have been abused, but they’re not inherently bad. You want to guard against wild variations in, for example, fuel or crop prices.
Lehman Brothers is not a bank. The problem with Sen. Blanche Lincoln’s amendment is that it wouldn’t have affected Lehman Brothers. AIG had no idea how much it was obligated in derivatives. When the Fed came to us in 2008 to say they wanted to pay $80 billion in AIG’s debt — a week later it was $120 billion, then $150 billion — AIG had no idea what it owed. The point is no matter where derivatives are traded, they need to be regulated. The price needs to be made clear upfront.
The Senate bill should be even tougher than House version. He had to get enough votes to pass it.
Banks were not too big but too interconnected, too leveraged to fail. “We are going to make them fail. The bill that we have allows them to fail, requires them to fail.”
We will not allow to let people get overextended. Won’t allow them to be so indebted they can’t pay what they owe. AIG had no regulator. If this bill passes, these companies will be monitored. Regulators will order them to stop taking on new debt if the burden overcomes revenue.
A break, and the conversation continues…